tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post115401663570124364..comments2024-02-10T09:55:04.396+02:00Comments on The Death of Johannesburg: Comments back, Moderation in PlaceThe Real Realisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14512197893435107223noreply@blogger.comBlogger133125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-34809811753250088022008-12-10T18:08:00.000+02:002008-12-10T18:08:00.000+02:00In 2001 my dad and i were hijacked outside our hom...In 2001 my dad and i were hijacked outside our home in midrand. we got off fine - both alive despite a concussion my father had after he was kicked flat-out in the head. after that event i remember very clearly that i wasnt scared - i was angry, very angry. and it must have been not long after that when i, who had before been a great enthusiast for my country, gave up hope and care, turned my back, and left for europe.<BR/>ive been living in europe for about seven years now, more or less. for the first two years i travelled all over, after that i tried to return to sa but i just couldnt stand it there and so again i returned to europe. but, unlike before, this time i tried to settle down. first in holland, then spain, and finally, where i am now, in south france with my french girl-friend. my life here is great - good food, easy living, work opportunities, low crime, and a beautiful girl whom i love very much to top it all off. so why then, if everything is so good, do i have this ache to go back to sa?<BR/>a friend of mine in sa got hijacked too some months back. and recently he too has left sa and is now making it in england. maybe it was then that i started to think, 'but if we all leave the country (and no ones against us doing it, after all, we have the right), then whos going to be left to maintain any good there? and what about all the people who would leave but just dont have the means - are we going to leave them there with all the baddies to deal with it alone? our home, our country is being destroyed before our eyes and were just going to sit back and watch it, complaining, or leave the country and try forget about it? im sitting here in europe and im seeing whats happening there and im ripping my hear out! so much so thats its coming to the point where i feel im going to have to abondon a good life here, and the woman i love to go back home to live a life of potential suffering, just because thats what the country needs right now. am i crazy? isnt there anyone else who shares this feeling? if there are then i urge you all, and ill join you, to forget about the old sa - thats dead and gone for everyone regardless of your colour, to learn to adapt, to make a new place for us all, to have children who will become this new breed of south african and to stay there and and do good. we arent going to let this country turn into zimbabwe are we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-37915025139058759482008-11-22T15:06:00.000+02:002008-11-22T15:06:00.000+02:00I viewed the disturbing pictures of Joburg with a...I viewed the disturbing pictures of Joburg with a sense of loss, anguish and then fear.<BR/><BR/>I knew this town as a youngster and visited with my parents. I now live abroad.<BR/><BR/>Johannesburg, formerly, the grandiose, well-planned, most-beautiful city in the Southern-hemisphere with reputedly the largest man-made urban forest was a marvel of white entrepreneurial vision.<BR/><BR/>A testimony to hard-work and perseverance, it arose out of the dry, dusty Highveld grass, gaining status as the only world-class Metropolitan centre not built on or near a natural waterway. It had a world-renowned work ethic and was a place which “meant business.”<BR/><BR/>It is not without seeing or experiencing the former white-run Johannesburg that one can appreciate the sense of loss one feels, described by some of the posters here.<BR/><BR/>We are meant to believe that since apartheid was supposedly aberrant then this sort of degeneration in a moral and physical sense is somehow acceptable? How perverse, as not even the few decent blacks can say this is an acceptable outcome.<BR/><BR/>The loss represented by Joburg’s demise is representative of the coming loss of the entire Western Civilisation to the blacks. Conquered not through military might or ingenious means, but through the moral decadency of whites themselves giving into the gamut of Liberal notions, including but not limited to, Political Correctness.<BR/><BR/>Let us not lie to ourselves.<BR/><BR/>“White Flight,” from Western urban centre’s the world over (London, Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago, Cape Town, Durban, Birmingham UK etc.) is not due to anything other than the barbarians being handed the keys to the gate , entering the cities and fulfilling their nefarious ends thereby forcing whites to flee for the relative safety of suburban enclaves.<BR/><BR/>Good white people did not wake up one morning and decide to leave downtown Joeys (Joburg) with it’s culture, night-life and vibrancy on an impulsive whim.<BR/><BR/>No, charming and sophisticated Hillbrow, Yeoville and Observatory were deserted because hordes of blacks (the country of their origin is irrelevant), with no regard for order, self-discipline, hygiene, culture or fellow human beings (including blacks) descended en masse spoiling everything they encountered.<BR/><BR/>To the American apologist here, go to London, UK and visit the neighbourhoods South of the River Thames. Witness an air of decay that has set in; knife crime is rampant, drug-dealing rife. Hooded blacks loiter on street corners intimidating passers-by. <BR/><BR/>Apologists put Joburg’s degeneration, and SA’s problems in general, down to poverty and blame the legacy of apartheid and the lack of opportunity for blacks as the reasons (see excuses) for their failure.<BR/><BR/>We, as human beings all started at the same point.<BR/><BR/>Blacks in the UK are heavily discriminated in favour of. They receive State handouts for all purposes, including studying or attempting to further themselves. <BR/><BR/>Why then the decay, crime and victim-mentality in Britain too I ask?<BR/><BR/>Ultimately, my fear is that this problem will come to a city near you. No country is safe. Liberal, guilt-ridden media (see BBC, CNN), continue to indoctrinate the gullible masses reaching all corners of the globe.<BR/>White people the world over need to get their morals back in order, return to Christianity (which is the source of their success), or else be prepared to be on the run perpetually, you and your children’s children.<BR/><BR/>Civilisation is built on order and a high regard for one’s fellow man, these spinning off from the reverence for an Almighty God.<BR/><BR/>This is where we can start claiming our heritage back.<BR/><BR/>Hear the past cries of the children delighting in the Christmas celebrations at Joubert Park (now a disgusting, cess-pit), downtown Johannesburg, as you read this.<BR/>Johannesburg is a metaphor, a foretaste, of what is happening to the white man the world over.<BR/><BR/>We need to change before it is too late.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-29433070843654558112008-08-07T02:44:00.000+02:002008-08-07T02:44:00.000+02:00I really love my country S.A. with all its colorfu...I really love my country S.A. with all its colorful people like Mandela who lives in the wonderful surroundings of Qunu and our President of the ANC who always has a shower after he has sex as to not contract AIDS. And those cultural songs he sings like Give my knobkerrie or AK so that I can silence any one who does not like me. And Im really proud of my beautiful city Josie where the soothing sounds of gun shots reverbarate through the leafy threes at a rate of one every ten minutes. I live in the cosmopolitan Hillbrow where every man is free to get drunk and stoned on tick and buttons and cases of quartz with the money brought in from the northern suburbs. I cant wait for the world cup soccer to come so that I can club these tourists like seal pups and enrich myself. To all those negetive people out there why work 40 hours a week when you can make the same money in an hour. All you need as our leader ses is my AK......And as for those broken buildings, those are some of the best shabeens in town mounas.... whats wrong with you people dont disrespect another mans shabeen..<BR/>The police are also very lenient with us, so stop complaining and join us the New South Africans where crime pays.<BR/>P.S. Our Leader shower head Zuma will give us each a farm if we vote for him and I say Soega Wena thats a good deal. <BR/>Remember the money is in the Northern Suburbs, keep your AK's loaded and Ill see you at the Shabeen after a hard hours work.sarcastichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03280786706862206911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-91106103073746816902008-05-24T01:50:00.000+02:002008-05-24T01:50:00.000+02:00To the anonymous commentator who referred to Ameri...To the anonymous commentator who referred to Americans as "redneck dumbass"... you are completely and utterly clueless, my friend! <BR/><BR/>May I ask you if you have ever been to America? <BR/><BR/>For the record, I am a Mahattan native, with two post-graduate degrees. Most of my family, friends, and employees hold advanced degrees as well.<BR/><BR/>If you are looking for an American "dumbass", please look elsewhere! <BR/><BR/>Education is, and will remain the key to a better life (and/or world), at least for me and mine. <BR/><BR/>It's a shame there aren't more people who share that core belief. <BR/><BR/>I too, am "anti-war", but also subscribe to the "just war" theory.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you would as well, if you witnessed (as I did) your hometown brutally and viciously attacked by 19 retrograde fanatics on 9/11/2001.<BR/><BR/>It was not merely an attack on America; it was an attack on ALL of Western Civilization! Citizens of over 50 countries were murdered in The Twin Towers when they collapsed! <BR/><BR/>There comes a time when one has not only the right, but the obligation, to defend one's self and one's family (as well as one's country) from those who seek your destruction.<BR/><BR/>It's true in South Africa as well as America.<BR/><BR/>I certainly sympathize with your plight; I have visited SA on numerous occasions (Pre- and Post-Apartheid) and can not imagine the heartache you must feel at the plight (and blight) of your beautiful nation. I fear it's a foretaste of the shape of things to come here in the US. <BR/><BR/>That is why I keep and bear arms, as is my RIGHT. <BR/><BR/>Given that, is it "blindly patriotic" to want to defend your family, property and your way of life? I think not!<BR/><BR/>We, as Westerners, should be united, and not divided in that regard! <BR/><BR/>Best of luck to you and your nation, I hope things take a turn for the better!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-81120515320827918852008-04-24T10:28:00.000+02:002008-04-24T10:28:00.000+02:00Thank you so much for sharing those pics with us. ...Thank you so much for sharing those pics with us. It is really shocking to see what has happened to the City of Gold. It would be great if we could see pics of all the major hospitals (now and then) as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-15252545734585814802008-04-05T07:40:00.000+02:002008-04-05T07:40:00.000+02:00It is interesting to see how a part of a town (Hil...It is interesting to see how a part of a town (Hillbrow close to downtown Johannesburg) is deteriorating. though you can witness this kind of negative development in any given city all around the globe.<BR/>like abroad the trend in SA is to move to the suburbs and alienate the city centers for whatever reasons.<BR/>as i am from germany i have to tell you that there are quite a number of TV programmes which feature SA as a prime country for immigration. Yes, they all mention the hight crime rate and the high level of South African bureaucracy but they also show the opportunities you CAN have in SA.<BR/>Of course you cannot compare SA to a first world country, cause it's not and it has never been.<BR/>SA is enjoying a robust economic growth and i believe the World Cup will be of an importance you are not able to comprehend. I very much hope that South Africans will then show what SA is about. flock to the stadiums and shout to us with that friendly south african spirit (which you do have don't you?). no time for whining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-59821922793927656472008-03-07T07:58:00.000+02:002008-03-07T07:58:00.000+02:00Greetings,Do you still operate?Please reply to me ...Greetings,<BR/>Do you still operate?<BR/>Please reply to me louisdrinkingt@gmail.com I live in Israel and want to tell you a few things of interest.<BR/>LouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-2240738910560676852008-01-07T15:33:00.000+02:002008-01-07T15:33:00.000+02:00I left South Africa for Europe ten years ago and a...I left South Africa for Europe ten years ago and am now living in Italy - the best choice I ever made in my life. Today I have no regrets. Instead I feel that I have moved from hell to heaven. I miss nothing !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-65088118379776815062007-10-31T17:30:00.000+02:002007-10-31T17:30:00.000+02:00There has been some improvement in Jhg, granted. ...There has been some improvement in Jhg, granted. However, the vast majority of the city centre is an unadulterated mess.<BR/><BR/>Anyone who says otherwise is welcome to drive or walk through ANY part of it after dark, including Newtown, Constitutional Hill, or Main.<BR/><BR/>Speak to the people actually living in the new residential developments in the city before you sprout off about how "safe", "secure" and "wonderful" Joburg city centre has become.<BR/><BR/>Even in the suburbs, people live in fear - THAT'S why there is a new category of crime, viz. "house robbery". "House robbery" is where a gang of armed men invade your house and proceed to rob it WHILE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE IN THE HOUSE. If you don't believe me, go check out the "official stats".<BR/><BR/>We live in a constant state of fear. Four house robberies in my neighbourhood in 48 hours last month. 80-year old man beaten to within in inch of his life in my road this month. Best friend staying with us was victim of armed robbery in Randburg parking lot in broad daylight. Three house breakings at my house in 4 years. Attempted car theft in my driveway while home. Gate motor stolen while @ home. Close friend raped and murdered. Car stolen. Car broken into. Smash and grab. Family member hijacked outside my house. Break in at business - 3x. Many friends hijacked. Friends in armed robbery at restaurant in Hyde Park. <BR/><BR/>It goes on and on and on. Anyone who says otherwise must please come and live here. Those that do (live here) must answer one wuestion, namely: "Are your kids in state schools or private?".<BR/><BR/>I used to love this place with all my heart and actually came back from a long period abroad to be part of the "New SA". Unfortunately, one cannot remain in a state of denial indefinitely. This sight is merely a photographic recording of the degradation - as far as I am aware NONE of the phtographed sites has been improved...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-45189385025112212562007-10-26T13:04:00.000+02:002007-10-26T13:04:00.000+02:00it breaks my heart to see what has happened, I fee...it breaks my heart to see what has happened, I feel that South Africa will loose a lot of it's history and beautiful buildings if this continues. When you travel in europe they keep their buildings in tact and the age of them is overwhelming. Even though SA is much younger then europe we should preserve that we have as it is apart of everyone in the country. If you travel to eastern europe this is what you see building torn down ruined and destroyed and replaced with terrible new builds just built with no thought or beauty, something the government has thrown up for the sake of replacing what is ruined, that means nothing to someone who is interested in a counrty. It really breaks my heart how the government just allows this to happen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-48953924511158402452007-10-02T08:08:00.000+02:002007-10-02T08:08:00.000+02:00I remember going with my dad to his offices in tow...I remember going with my dad to his offices in town, back in 1984 or something. Used to take me for haircuts at the barbershop on the corner... Now it looks like a town in a war-torn African state...Sinudeityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00700511304318826225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-42045802564608161022007-09-30T19:51:00.000+02:002007-09-30T19:51:00.000+02:00This is horrible. No respect for anything. I was i...This is horrible. No respect for anything. I was in Durban city last week and the same is happening there. I was to scared to stop and take some pictures.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-28982445065526818772007-09-26T13:28:00.000+02:002007-09-26T13:28:00.000+02:00it is depressing that so many people dislike such ...it is depressing that so many people dislike such an awesome city. suck it up emo's its an wicked cool place where i have lived my whole life and never experienced any of the negativity that some have. joburg has been good to me, and it will be good to everyone if they werent so damn negative and paranoid. suck it up and stop whining, find something better to do with your time...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-28932448547996096802007-09-26T09:17:00.000+02:002007-09-26T09:17:00.000+02:00Hi Alex here,I came here from Scotland as a young ...Hi Alex here,<BR/>I came here from Scotland as a young lad but grew up in this wonderful place called Johannesburg, with fond memories of many places in the photographs posted. I remember seeing Talep Petersen and the CT Coon Carnaval perform at Joubert Park in the late 70's. We walked there from Kensington! The filth and deterioration there now is enough for me, never mind the crime. <BR/>If you get the time to branch off a bit you may like to start "The demise of the East" by photographing Germiston, Boksburg and Elsburg. Scary stuff!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-69171150530398204112007-08-30T12:32:00.000+02:002007-08-30T12:32:00.000+02:00Having left SA in 82 after living in Hillbrow at t...Having left SA in 82 after living in Hillbrow at the Summit Club I am shocked to see how it has gone downhill from then, it was a vibrant and fun place to live there were troubles then but not so that you would notice just hsad to be carefull when going around joburg.<BR/><BR/>MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-82510209474133503032007-08-02T03:00:00.000+02:002007-08-02T03:00:00.000+02:00I left SA 3 years ago and have to agree with the c...I left SA 3 years ago and have to agree with the comment posted earlier that we "have forfeited part of your (my)soul for a country that you (I) will never find an identity in". How very sad that despite the yearning to smell the dust of Africa and missing my family every day, it still remains a better option for my children that I continue sacrificing my soul for their benefit.<BR/><BR/>Despite all the arguments, the reality is that crime in SA has reached proportions equivalent to genocide, that the average South African today has a far lower quality of life than they did in 1980 (including Blacks and even under Apartheid), that the government has not the willingness nor the ability to run South Africa effectively and that none of this makes me feel better about not being at home. <BR/><BR/>I take some personal responsibility for the situation in South Africa. I truly believed that given a chance, South Africa could become a free, fair and non-racist society governed justly by the people. I advocated this, worked towards this and in establishing democracy, ultimately and dismally failed.<BR/><BR/>I can also understand many of the angry posts from ex-pats. Many of them feel the same way as I do. Many are angry at being refugees. How ironic that "we are the scaterlings of Africa".<BR/><BR/>I don't want SA to fail. I want to come home. <BR/>Sadly, I never will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-52274914885321564322007-07-23T04:28:00.001+02:002007-07-23T04:28:00.001+02:00Real live killing & burning of blacks in South Afr...Real live killing & burning of blacks in South Africa:<BR/><BR/>Download this video:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl4Nwz5xiv8<BR/><BR/>real African lynch<BR/><BR/>and please post it on this website. <BR/><BR/>Download this video with<BR/>www.keepvid.com<BR/><BR/>You may need to use a flv player to view the downloaded file, such as flv 1.3.3<BR/><BR/>Please upload it to other websites that doesnt censor videos, like Zippyvideos.<BR/><BR/>We urge all the readers to download this video. It is proof of the crime and genocide committed in the name of Nelson Mandela and the ANC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-74920390041855151252007-07-23T04:28:00.000+02:002007-07-23T04:28:00.000+02:00Real live killing & burning of blacks in South Afr...Real live killing & burning of blacks in South Africa:<BR/><BR/>Download this video:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl4Nwz5xiv8<BR/><BR/>real African lynch<BR/><BR/>and please post it on this website. <BR/><BR/>Download this video with<BR/>www.keepvid.com<BR/><BR/>You may need to use a flv player to view the downloaded file, such as flv 1.3.3<BR/><BR/>Please upload it to other websites that doesnt censor videos, like Zippyvideos.<BR/><BR/>We urge all the readers to download this video. It is proof of the crime and genocide committed in the name of Nelson Mandela and the ANC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-55493401395953468502007-06-21T03:35:00.000+02:002007-06-21T03:35:00.000+02:00How ironic it is for an Afrikaner to quote "moral ...How ironic it is for an Afrikaner to quote "moral decency"!!<BR/>What was moral about indefinite detention without trial, bantustans, the 1913 Land Act, the Immorality Act, state sanctioned torture etc. etc.?<BR/>I do not for one minute condone what is happening in SA now, but these people should not try and claim superior values, when in their own right, they were just as barbaric, and downright stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-62760807034237898692007-06-03T13:43:00.000+02:002007-06-03T13:43:00.000+02:00Nelson Mandela? Isn't he the one who sings a song ...Nelson Mandela? Isn't he the one who sings a song about killing the Ama Bhulu. Yes he used to be State President did he not? and now there is someone called Mbeki who sings about what he can do with a machine gun? <BR/> Yeesh all these nice people to run a country, what is there to complain about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-76105142649577280782007-06-02T22:46:00.000+02:002007-06-02T22:46:00.000+02:00People do not bash South Africa as such, people ba...People do not bash South Africa as such, people bash what South Africa has become. They see the rotten fabric of the ANC government deteriorating on a daily basis.<BR/>A lot of Whites and Blacks beleived that with the advent of the ANC would herald a bright new future. This has not really materialised and a realisation that the ANC does not give a damm about "the people" gnaws at the soul of South Africa, a nation ridden by crime, corruption and disillusionment<BR/>We see apartheid renewed by the ANC in the form of BEE, an indifference to reason, a disregard for victims of crime. We see administrative nightmares, bureaucracy gone mad, a dysfunctional Health Service and a demoralised and apathetic Police Service. The ANC inherited a beautiful and functional country and since that time have demonstrated a singlular talent to destroy it, a fact which all the pictures on this site amply demonstrate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-17632561883441742742007-06-01T20:06:00.000+02:002007-06-01T20:06:00.000+02:00I have not been back to S.africa since 1992..the l...I have not been back to S.africa since 1992..the last time I saw JHB...and it was septic then.<BR/> Those lovely art deco buildings that used to be Stuttafords,John Orrs and others...all wasted. Memories of my childhood tainted now with garbage and dirt..I hope and pray that one day some miracle happens and the city can be restored. But I know I am only dreaming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-72129332082305292102007-04-11T22:46:00.000+02:002007-04-11T22:46:00.000+02:00As a white South African born and bred I had to le...As a white South African born and bred I had to leave three years ago because of serious trouble with organised crime which the police refused to help me with and they were involved with the criminals.<BR/>It is just so heartbreaking to see South Africa being reduced to ashes and disaster by the current ANC government it's so typically African, can't these blacks understand what they are doing, from Cape to Cairo it's just the same chaos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-90043771712987767442007-03-31T04:44:00.000+02:002007-03-31T04:44:00.000+02:00Anonymous said... to the "dumb dutchman" above....<B> Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> to the "dumb dutchman" above. Yeah, that never admitting you are a Nat posting was so right. You are the DF. Those moronic dutchman (which I'm assuming you fit right in) could never see the wood from the mampoer. What would have been better you moronic idiot...to carry on with PW's scorched earth policy? Had you and your fascist, racist, Nazi ilk woken up years ago to the legacy you would eventually have no choice in leaving (and aprtheid didn't have a snowballs hope of enduring on a black continent), things could have been much better in SA today!!<BR/><BR/> You reap what you sow dutchman.</B><BR/><BR/>Whining DF soutie, I never voted NAT, they were suffering from the same delusional superiority complex like the lot of spineless wankers of your kind. <BR/><BR/>Having dealt with your kinship here overseas I for the life of me cannot understand were your superiority feelings come from, most of them lack common decency and moral values, not to mention common sense. It has been quite an eyeopener...<BR/><BR/>No, you have it wrong, we reaped what you sowed. The difference is that you actually did us a favour, we are heaps better off than we were over in SA. I thank you for that.<BR/><BR/>So I hope you enjoy your miserable life you brought onto yourself and others. I just feel sorry for the other you dropped into the same cesspool without having a choice in the matter. <BR/><BR/>,b><BR/>Eat my dutchie.... said...<BR/><BR/> To the dutchie who voted no in the referendums....<BR/><BR/> are you enjoying using the internet? I have no doubt that if you lot were still in charge, the internet would have been banned. No question about it...then we couldn't have debates like this.<BR/><BR/> Comperhende DF! ,/b><BR/><BR/>Porra, I enjoy the internet very much, no thanks to you though, I sincerely doubt you had ANY input into it at all while tilling your vegie gardens. <BR/>As a matter of fact my opinion is that you are likely one of the plenty out there who are great at talking, but never really did anything to contribute by actually doing something. That is why you backboneless ppl are still stuck in that hole you dug for yourselves, you don't have the drive to get out and start over.<BR/><BR/>As for internet access, continue paying your extravagant costs for ASDL access in SA, I'm pretty sure it makes you feel like a real big boy, being milked like that by a bunch of ignoramuses who are getting rich of your stupidity.<BR/><BR/>Man, have you made it in life or what!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30988156.post-26506390927210737492007-03-30T14:59:00.000+02:002007-03-30T14:59:00.000+02:00These pictures remind me of the vacated, burned ou...These pictures remind me of the vacated, burned out and vandalized streets and buildings of Detroit. What a shame. The world owes SA a huge apology!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com